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My Secret, Less-Sweet Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

By Nagi Maehashi
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Published11 Sep '20 Updated11 May '25
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Unlike traditional buttercream, this Fluffy Vanilla Frosting is silky smooth, much fluffier and far less sweet. The texture is closer to whipped cream, but unlike cream, this Frosting is stable for days. It pipes like a dream, as featured in Vanilla Cupcakes, and is straightforward to make.

Made without icing sugar / powdered sugar, this is actually an old fashioned frosting called “Ermine Frosting”. If you’ve never heard of it before, the ingredients and method will intrigue you!

Close up piping Fluffy Vanilla Frosting onto Vanilla Cupcake

SNAPSHOT: My Secret Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

Texture: Light and fluffy. Sits between buttercream and whipped cream, but more towards lightness of whipped cream. 100% smooth.

Sweetness and richness: Much less sweet than buttercream with 60% less sugar. In reality it is quite rich because it uses 225g/2 sticks of butter but it doesn’t taste rich because of the very fluffy, whipped cream-like texture.

Uses: Piped or spread onto cakes and cupcakes, or used in place of cream to dollop onto or on the side.

How it sets: At room temperature, it’s soft and fluffy but firm enough to be piped into tall swirls. In the fridge, it will set and become firmer, but not hard like butter. This frosting does not get a crust.

Storage: Keep covered in airtight container or cake dome. On counter on mild days up to about 22°C/71°F. Refrigerate on warmer days that makes butter melt.

Best served at: room temperature. If too cold, the frosting is firmer than ideal.

My secret Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

I call this my “secret” Vanilla Frosting because it’s not a widely known type of frosting and people are always flabbergasted when I tell them how it’s made using butter, milk, flour and sugar.

It’s my best all-rounder that’s a hit with everyone. Take a classic buttercream, in all its rich, sweet glory, and a lightly sweetened vanilla whipped cream, and this Vanilla Frosting sits squarely in the middle.

But unlike buttercream, it’s 100% silky smooth. And unlike whipped cream which deflates within hours, this Vanilla Frosting will hold a tall piped swirl for days and days.

This looks and pipes like buttercream, but it’s WAY less sweet and rich!

This frosting is actually an old fashioned frosting called Ermine Frosting. Also known as boiled-milk frosting, roux frosting and mock cream, none of these names sound particularly flash nor do they capture the magic of this frosting that has a cult following. Some declare it as the best frosting in the world!

Showing the inside of moist Vanilla cupcakes with vanilla cupcake frosting
Vanilla Cupcake cut open to show plush, tender crumb and how soft this Vanilla Frosting is. Looks like whipped cream but has more structure.

About this Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

Though the proper name of this frosting is Ermine Frosting, I’m going to continue to call it Fluffy Vanilla Frosting because that’s exactly what it is – and it sounds a lot more flattering than the real name!😂

The method by which it is made will sound highly unusual: hot milk, flour and sugar is cooked on the stove until thickened into a thick custard texture, then once cool it becomes a thoroughly unappetising looking bowl of gluey-jelly which is then whipped into butter.

Making Fluffy Vanilla Frosting - Ermine Frosting

And this is when the ugly duckling transforms into a beautiful swan. Because suddenly, you’re staring into a bowl of what looks like whipped cream. Except….. you haven’t used cream at all. You touch it and know that it’s firm enough to pipe into sky-high swirls. You taste it, and it’s silky smooth. A cross between buttercream and whipped cream!

Bowl of whipped Fluffy Vanilla Frosting - Ermine Frosting

What you need for this Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

All you need is butter, flour, milk, sugar and vanilla. Flour?? I hear you query. YES. That is what thickens this into a frosting texture. I promise you will not detect even the faintest bit of flour once finished – not in texture and certainly not taste.

Ingredients in Fluffy Vanilla Frosting - Ermine Frosting

How to make my secret Less-Sweet Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

First, we make the roux. It’s just like how we start creamy-sauce savoury foods like Mac and Cheese – except it’s sweet, and we take it much further until it’s very thick.

How to make Less-Sweet Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

  1. Milk, sugar, flour – Stir the sugar and flour in a dry saucepan over medium heat – this just toasts the sugar lightly to bring out some flavour. Then slowly pour the warm milk in as you whisk (this avoids lumps)

  2. Cook over medium heat until it thickens in a thick dolloping custard. The range of thickness possible is actually quite broad – I’ve made it way thicker and it still worked perfectly. In fact, the frosting holds its structure longer, and it pipes with sharper, more defined edges even though it is just as fluffy. Just don’t take it off when it’s still watery. 

  3. Scrape it into a bowl (“it” being a roux);

  4. Cover roux with cling wrap, pressing onto the surface to prevent a skin from forming (or use paper if you’re plastic adverse) then very importantly, allow to fully cool otherwise it will melt the butter. It will become like a thick, pasty, thoroughly unappetising jelly and at this stage you will start doubting me. Have faith!

Cooling the roux / making ahead – I usually cool on counter for 20 minutes then refrigerate for 30 minutes or so to speed things up but don’t let it get fridge cold because otherwise it won’t mix together well with the room temp butter (because the temperatures are too different). You can also leave it overnight in the fridge but take it out about 1 hour prior to dechill it and bring to room temperature.

Now, we whip it up like any other frosting.

How to make Less-Sweet Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

5. Beat butter until creamy – just for a couple of minutes. We don’t need it to become aerated because we will be whipping the combined mixture like you do whipped cream and at this stage it will fluff up more;

6. Add dollops of the roux, beating as you go. Take about 1 minute to add all the roux in, this will ensure your Frosting stays smooth;

7. Beat, beat, beat – Add vanilla and a pinch of salt for flavour, then beat for another 2 to 3 minutes, just like you’re whipping up a big bowl of cream; and

8. Voila! Your Fluffy Vanilla Frosting is done!

Vanilla cupcakes with buttercream vanilla cupcake frosting

How to use this Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

Spreading and piping

Spread it onto cakes (like Vanilla Cake) and cupcakes  Vanilla Cupcakes or Chocolate Cupcakes).

Or transfer to a piping bag and pipe sky-high swirls, as pictured throughout this post (Wilton 2D tip).

In fact, this frosting was the traditional frosting used for Red Velvet Cake! It was only in modern times that cream cheese frosting became the frosting of choice for Red Velvet.

You can pipe sky-high mounds of this frosting onto cupcakes, and you won’t find it sickly sweet like with buttercream!

Flavours and colouring

Treat it like your everyday buttercream – this frosting can be tinted and flavoured with concentrated flavouring.

To make it Chocolate flavoured, just whip in 1/4 cup cocoa powder at end. Melted chocolate doesn’t work as well because it weighs it down.

Note: I haven’t tried using fresh citrus like lemon, lime and orange to ensure it doesn’t split.

Storage

The butter in this frosting will require refrigeration if the temperature is warm enough for the butter to start softening – this causes the frosting to droop. I find that up to about 23°/73°F, this frosting is fine out on the counter.

If you are forced to refrigerate, make sure you take cakes out 1 1/2 hours prior to serving and cupcakes out 1 hour prior so they come to room temperature. The frosting firms up in the fridge (because the butter goes hard) which is not very pleasant to eat! You need the frosting to come to room temperature so it’s creamy and soft again. It will soften faster than fridge-cold butter because the fridge-cold frosting is not as hard as butter.

Vanilla Cupcakes with Vanilla Swiss Meringue Buttercream
Vanilla Cupcakes with Fluffy Vanilla Frosting topped with fresh raspberry

So, now you know my secret frosting recipe. 🙂 I’ve been making it for years, relishing in how people who ordinarily shy-away from sky high mounds of frosting have dived into it after I assured them that it’s way less sweet and rich than typical frostings.

Tell me what you think if you try it! – Nagi x


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Close up piping Fluffy Vanilla Frosting onto Vanilla Cupcake

My Secret Less-Sweet, Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

Author: Nagi
Prep: 20 minutes mins
Cook: 10 minutes mins
Frosting, Icing, Sweet
Western
4.97 from 352 votes
Servings12
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Recipe video above. This is actually an old fashioned frosting called Ermine Frosting that was traditionally used for Red Velvet Cake. Though not widely known, many consider it far superior to buttercream because its 100% silky smooth, far less sweet and much fluffier – which means you can pipe sky high mounds onto cupcakes and it won't be sickly sweet.
The texture is like whipped cream but slightly more dense. But while whipped cream deflates within hours, this frosting will hold its shape for days!
Don't be turned off by the flour – you absolutely cannot taste it at all.
Makes enough to frost 12 cupcakes generously with tall swirls (pictured), or 24 cupcakes swirled on with a knife, or a two or three layer 20 – 23cm/8-9" cake.

Ingredients

  • 5 tbsp flour , plain/all purpose
  • 1 cup white sugar , regular/granulated (can reduce to 1/2 cup, Note 1)
  • 1 cup milk, warmed using any method , full fat best (but even 0% fat works)
  • 1 1/2 tsp vanilla extract
  • Pinch of salt
  • 225g / 1 cup unsalted butter , softened but not too soft! (Note 3)

Chocolate Frosting option:

  • 1/4 cup cocoa powder, unsweetened (Dutch processed best, if you can)
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Instructions

Thickening Roux:

  • Place flour and sugar in a large saucepan over medium heat. Cook, stirring constantly, for 30 seconds.
  • While whisking constantly, slowly pour the milk in (this ensure it’s lump free).
  • As the milk gets hotter, it will start to thicken – stir constantly so the base doesn’t catch.
  • Cook until the mixture thickens in a thick, dolloping custard – see video for texture. TIP: Thicker texture = thicker frosting texture but won't make the frosting dense, it's still fluffy and spreadable but it just makes it "sturdier" with sharper edges when piped.
  • Remove from heat and scrape into a bowl. Cover with cling wrap, pressing down onto the surface to prevent a skin from forming.
  • Cool completely (I leave on counter for 20 min or so then refrigerate 30 min to speed up but don't let it get chilled, best at room temp to beat into butter). You can leave in fridge overnight but take it out 1 hour prior to using (to dechill – otherwise it won't mix well with softened butter).

Making the Fluffy Frosting:

  • Place butter in a bowl and use either a handheld beater or stand mixer (with whisk attachment) to beat for 3 minutes until it's smooth and changes from yellow to very pale yellow, almost white.
  • Now start whipping in the Thickening Roux. On speed 5 (medium), start adding the thick roux one heaped tablespoon at a time. Take about 1 minute to add it all.
  • Once all added, add vanilla and salt, then whip for 2 to 3 minutes until you can see that it is still enough to hold peaks. Then it's ready to use!

Chocolate flavoured option:

  • Beat in the cocoa powder at the end, just until mixed through.

Frosting cakes and cupcakes:

  • Use it like any other frosting on cakes and cupcakes – either spread it on with a knife or put in a piping bag. You can pipe sky-high mounds and it will hold its form, as pictured on Vanilla Cupcakes in this post.
  • See notes for storage / make ahead.

Recipe Notes:

1. Sugar – caster/superfine ok too. 1 cup sugar yields a sweet frosting but not overly sweet like buttercream which uses about 2.5 – 3 cups equivalent. Can reduce to as little as 1/2 cup – then this really does taste like a lightly sweetened whipped cream!
 2. Whiteness – it will depend on the colour of your butter. Economical butter tends to be more yellow so the frosting will have an off white colour. European butters (such as Lurpak) are paler so the frosting will be closer to white. The butter whipping stage will lighten the colour of the butter.
Whitening – if you really want pure white, you can purchase a frosting whitener like this one from Wilton and also get clear imitation vanilla essence but the flavour isn’t as good and pure as vanilla extract.
The other trick is to add tiny drops of blue or purple into the frosting. These colours are opposite yellow on the colour wheel so they will offset the yellow tinge. For liquid colouring, use a tiny drop at a time. For gel (more intense), dip a toothpick in and wipe onto the frosting surface.
Frosting can also be tinted – it’s like a really fluffy buttercream, so anything you can do to colour / flavour buttercream, you can do with this frosting!
3. Softened Butter – this is butter that is at 17°C/63°F, which is cooler than you might expect! It should be soft enough that it is pliable so when you poke it, it leaves an indent. But still cool enough so that you don’t end up with shiny grease your your finger.
If your butter gets too soft, the frosting will be too sloppy, the same problem you’d run into with any butter based frosting like buttercream frosting.
4. Storage & make ahead:
  • This frosting is best used straight after making. 
  • On cooler days (22C/71F or so), frosted cakes, cupcakes etc can stay out on the counter.
  • On warmer days, it will need to be refrigerated – the butter is what will make the frosting droop. Take out of fridge 1 – 1.5 hrs before serving to bring so the frosting can soften (it firms up in the fridge due to the butter).
  • The flour milk roux can be made the day before and refrigerated overnight, but then take it out of the fridge 1 hour prior to take the chill out of it, you want it at room temperature.
  • Freezing – up to 3 months, thaw overnight in the fridge
5. Recipe source: I cannot remember where I first obtained this recipe (it was over 10 years ago) but I cross checked my usual recipe resources before publishing it and this recipe uses the same quantities as the New York Times Ermine Frosting, but a slightly different method. (Note: that’s a paid resource though you can view limited pages for free)
6. Nutrition assuming 12 servings (as pictured in post – tall swirls!). Frosting only.

Nutrition Information:

Calories: 224cal (11%)Carbohydrates: 20g (7%)Protein: 1g (2%)Fat: 16g (25%)Saturated Fat: 10g (63%)Cholesterol: 42mg (14%)Sodium: 11mgPotassium: 35mg (1%)Fiber: 1g (4%)Sugar: 18g (20%)Vitamin A: 502IU (10%)Calcium: 27mg (3%)Iron: 1mg (6%)
Keywords: Boiled Milk Frosting, Ermine Frosting, Fluffy Vanilla Frosting, Smooth Frosting
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1,323 Comments

  1. Katie says

    August 31, 2023 at 1:00 am

    I would like to make this coffee flavoured, what would be the best way to do this? Thank you!

    Reply
    • Andrea Manthorne says

      September 14, 2023 at 10:34 am

      I’m no expert but coffee powder would probably work well. Start with 1/2 tsp and suit to taste. Hope that helps.

      Reply
  2. Lina says

    August 29, 2023 at 5:29 pm

    So I tried to also add philadelfia cream cheese, and it was really really tasty 😍 it is still holding up the shape on a cupcake

    Reply
    • Susan S says

      September 20, 2023 at 11:55 am

      That’s what I was wondering – so you subbed 2 sticks of butter for 1 package of philly CC?

      Reply
  3. Theresa Suzanne Di Mauro says

    August 4, 2023 at 5:20 am

    5 stars
    OMGeee! Never have I ever licked the buttercream off of both beaters and wish there was more! This is the creamiest most delicious recipe and the sweetness is absolutely perfect!

    Reply
  4. Maya says

    July 31, 2023 at 9:37 am

    This came out good. I thought it had a milky taste when I made it but on the cake it tasted great! It also made a smaller amount than I thought it would. I didn’t want to overwhip it, not sure if I should have kept whipping it. I like that you can use regular sugar instead of powdered sugar for it.

    Reply
  5. Tracey says

    July 24, 2023 at 8:24 am

    Can you make this into a cream cheese frosting?? Omit some butter and add cream cheese instead?

    Reply
  6. Allison James says

    July 14, 2023 at 5:55 am

    I’ve been making this recipe for years and it’s everyone’s favorite. However, I always have trouble coloring it. It sort of “separates”. I’ve tried gel and powder colors and they both do it. Any thoughts on what I’m doing wrong??

    Reply
    • Zan says

      August 11, 2023 at 5:47 pm

      Fat and water (which is the base of the colours you used) don’t emulsify properly. Try using an oil based colouring such as Colour Mill.

      Reply
      • Allison says

        September 5, 2023 at 8:56 pm

        Thank you for this! I will give this a try.

        Reply
    • Alice says

      July 31, 2023 at 2:07 am

      Have you tried coloring while making the roux instead?

      Reply
      • Allison says

        September 5, 2023 at 8:57 pm

        I haven’t but that’s a good idea!

        Reply
  7. Maria says

    July 10, 2023 at 7:36 pm

    5 stars
    The best frosting I’ve ever tried! So creamy and light, and most importantly not too sweet! This will be my go to for all future bakes! Mine came out softer than I planned but it’s my bad for getting the butter get too soft; it was still easy to pipe and I even had leftovers to freeze!

    Reply
  8. Debbie Cyburt says

    July 9, 2023 at 2:31 am

    Hi, could you substitute other flavorings in the cupcake batter and not too sweet frosting, like lemon extract or strawberry extract?

    Reply
    • Penny says

      September 27, 2023 at 11:03 am

      Hi Debbie. Did you try the flavourings? I was thinking of cooking the strawberries and creating a concentrate for the icing. TIA

      Reply
  9. biz says

    July 5, 2023 at 1:22 am

    I love everything about this- really simple video showing the consistency – short and sweet (but not too sweet). Can’t wait to try this today!

    Reply
  10. isabelle says

    July 4, 2023 at 3:28 am

    Made this recipe and fell in love with it! For those wondering you can definitely mix things up and play with flavours ( cocoa powder as mentioned, I used freeze dried strawberries to flavour my frosting and it was incredible, have also tried with lemon juice/zest and food dyes and hadn’t failed me yet!) it’s a great recipe

    Reply
  11. Fleur says

    July 3, 2023 at 5:46 pm

    I haven’t tried this yet but it sounds amazing! Would it be suitable to use on a drip cake or would the ganache be too heavy for it?

    Reply
  12. Jayne says

    June 29, 2023 at 11:27 am

    5 stars
    I’ve made a similar frosting before and it’s wonderful. Is there a way to make it vegan or without dairy (i.e. vegan butter or margarine)? Thanks.

    Reply
    • Shonna says

      October 6, 2023 at 10:51 am

      Did you ever try to make it with vegan butter? I’ll be trying that next week. I’ll be using gluten free flour, almond milk, and plant based butter so that it is gluten free and dairy free.

      Reply
      • Sarah Dench says

        February 26, 2024 at 5:58 am

        How did the vegan version go? Thinking of trying it!

        Reply
  13. Lorraine says

    June 27, 2023 at 11:47 pm

    Can this be made white in colour? Can shortening be used instead of butter to achieve this?

    Reply
  14. Allison says

    June 26, 2023 at 2:10 pm

    Has anyone tried this recipe with gluten free flour?

    As a coeliac household traditional flour is no longer an option.

    I might just need to make a cake and give this a test run……

    Reply
    • Margaret says

      October 15, 2023 at 11:15 am

      I have just made this recipe gluten free and it has worked well

      Reply
    • Eleanor says

      September 19, 2023 at 10:59 pm

      If you look further in the comments, Nathan made it GF. I’m also trying it now with gluten free corn flour (may be called corn starch in America). The roux worked!

      Reply
    • Laurie Nunes says

      September 5, 2023 at 3:55 am

      Did u get to try it gluten free?.. Definitely need to kno..

      Reply
    • Lindsay says

      August 24, 2023 at 2:27 am

      I made this last night with Bob’s All Purpose gf flour. I used 4 Tbsp and it thickened up nicely after a few minutes. I followed the rest of the instructions and the frosting came out beautifully!

      Reply
    • Emma says

      August 4, 2023 at 9:24 pm

      Came to the comments looking for the answer to this. Let us know how you go!

      Reply
      • Mel says

        August 11, 2023 at 7:07 pm

        I think it’ll be okay as the flour is only needed to thicken the mixture (i suppose!)

        Reply
  15. Kate says

    June 25, 2023 at 8:59 am

    5 stars
    Omg this is the best frosting ever! When I eat cupcakes I always take off frosting to eat, everyone say frosting is the best part but Im not a big fan at all as it usually way too sweet , way too much.
    But this is lot easier to make than regular frosting and less sweet, less greasy.

    Light silky and yum!

    I also love eating with scomes too

    Thank you so much for sharing this recipe!

    Reply
  16. Nathan says

    June 20, 2023 at 12:31 pm

    Thank you for this fantastic recipe!! I’m a professional Baker turned stay at home parent and I sell GF Baked goods from home.
    I substituted the 5 Tbsp of wheat flour with
    3 Tbsp of Fine Rice Flour and 2 Tbsp of Tapioca Starch.
    I hope this helps someone out there that’s celica like me.

    Reply
  17. Sam says

    June 17, 2023 at 11:52 pm

    I just made this and it split 🙈
    It looked perfect then I added my colours mixing through with a spoon
    Is this where I went wrong?
    When should I add colouring?

    Reply
  18. Tala says

    June 17, 2023 at 6:04 am

    This recipe is a life saver , it tastes amazing I reduced the sugar to 3/4 of a cup and it was amazing . I used it to frost my sons Dino cupcake cake , I used gel food coloring and the consistency was great

    Reply
    • Helen says

      October 9, 2023 at 8:52 am

      Hi Tala, just wondering when in the process did you add the gel food colouring? I’ve seen a few people comment that the food colouring makes the icing split so wondering how you had success!

      Reply
  19. Kim says

    June 17, 2023 at 12:42 am

    This type is typically called Ermine or “boiled-milk” frosting and has been around since the late 1800s. It’s super easy and tasty!

    Reply
  20. Kazmira says

    June 12, 2023 at 5:59 am

    I love the idea of this recipe and appreciate the detailed instructions, but I have made it twice and both times it turned out with a lumpy, almost pebbly texture. Delicious but not appetizing looking. Both times I’ve used my Kitchenaid mixer with whisk attachment. I made sure the butter wasn’t too soft (left it out til very soft, then put in fridge for a little bit to firm it up), roux was at room temp, beat butter well before adding roux. What could I be doing wrong? Thank you so much!

    Reply
    • Tiffany says

      February 15, 2024 at 5:58 pm

      5 stars
      I believe your flops with this recipe have been because your butter was still too soft with this treatment. When I made this icing, I took butter out of my fridge into a 19.5C/69F room for about 2 hours. With pressure, it was possible to stick a finger in to make an indent but you certainly couldn’t sink a finger straight in, it was still nowhere near what I would consider “very soft”, and was in fact what I considered, “are you sure this is soft enough? Well, the recipe said 63F and that’s what it is, so…” and it was difficult to get it to start whipping. This is much harder than you realize. Thinking of it as room temperature for softness is misleading, it’s not like the butter you leave in a platter for toast. Probably about 15 degrees C, 5-10 degrees cooler than the average person’s room. I had to cut it into chunks to get it going in the hand mixer, it would not have “spread” otherwise.

      I suspect letting your butter get too warm and then bringing it back to cool may have also influenced the consistency and greasiness of it.

      Secondly, are you adding the roux slowly? It should be added little by little over a period of about 3 minutes, adding a couple of tablespoons at a time and thoroughly blending before adding more.

      Last of all, were you trying to dye it? Dye regularly causes failure in the comments, because most dyes are water based. If you ever give ermine icing a try again, hope this helps.

      Reply
    • Barb says

      February 7, 2024 at 3:58 am

      I got as far as adding the roux followed the directions and the end result was butter separating. Googled it and was instructed to put the bowl in warm water then whip. It warmed the curds to a smooth fluffy frosting. Almost threw it out !

      Reply
    • maggie says

      October 13, 2023 at 10:52 pm

      mine is not firm, so fluid, i don’t know what’s wrong too hehehe

      Reply
    • Andrea Bates says

      August 5, 2023 at 10:57 am

      I find a hand mixer works better with frostings than the stand mixer. With the hand mixer you can really get all the nooks and crannies of the bowl with the stand mixer you are subject to where the whisk can reach

      Reply
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